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One last kudos to
elf for sweeping contest 18! And contest 19 is open for your submissions :D
In the bookstores here, they have a special section for 'Scottish Fiction', i.e. books written by Scottish writers. And sometimes, these books -- or parts of them, at least -- are in vernacular.
And occasionally you come across people attempting to read it.
Out loud.
People who are not Scottish.
This is a tremendous source of amusement for me, if you can't already tell.
Either way, the use of vernacular in these books serves a concrete purpose, though several writers tell us not to use phonetic spellings for dialogue or narration, (I think the majority of those people were mortified by how JKR wrote Hagrid's dialogue). However, I can't imagine Trainspotting without the vernacular. It would be a completely different book.
What do you think of the use of vernacular? Should it be more prevalent? When can it be used effectively? And why won't
azuire stop laughing at that Dubliner who's trying to read Glaswegian beat poetry?
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In the bookstores here, they have a special section for 'Scottish Fiction', i.e. books written by Scottish writers. And sometimes, these books -- or parts of them, at least -- are in vernacular.
And occasionally you come across people attempting to read it.
Out loud.
People who are not Scottish.
This is a tremendous source of amusement for me, if you can't already tell.
Either way, the use of vernacular in these books serves a concrete purpose, though several writers tell us not to use phonetic spellings for dialogue or narration, (I think the majority of those people were mortified by how JKR wrote Hagrid's dialogue). However, I can't imagine Trainspotting without the vernacular. It would be a completely different book.
What do you think of the use of vernacular? Should it be more prevalent? When can it be used effectively? And why won't
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And also thank you to whoever changed the layout. I can actually read the comments I'm making now! :D :D
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Ah! You're quite welcome, though I admit it was purely selfish of me
while I wait for dw to finish up the new update page omgfor better access to links from subject line. I had no idea it was causing comment issues. You should have said something! Promise me you'll say something if something else is wonk?huh my icons look funny when i select them. the list. all lines and stuff. *baffles slightly*
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Also Wuthering Heights, your dialect was okay but for this reader it was almost completely unreadable.
I am excited for the new update page, but I imagine you're even more ;) It's just - new things! shiny needed things! :D :D
I think I left a comment at some point but I guess no one saw it, oops! :D Thanks, though.
Yeah, I think that's part of the layout...sadly, I don't know s2 or CSS well enough to suggest a fix.
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(i also keep meaning to get rid of the weird orange of links but, again, i forget so much.)
OMG YES. scheduled updates! saving multiple drafts! all the little boxes! awesomeness! pretty! customizable! SCHEDULED UPDATES do you have any idea how much easier that will make reminder posts?
(in the meantime i continue to flail excitedly about the random icon button. i try to use it on lj and then get really, really disappointed.)
also I am a crazy person and track the entire community; all new entries & every comment on every entry comes automatically to my mail. so I should have seen it. maybe I somehow overlooked it or maybe, idk. ANYWAY I hereby grant you permission to annoy me until I do things in the future. (It's the only way to get things done around here.)
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I like DW's customization system - you can change colours without needing knowledge of CSS! (designing colour schemes also made me waste about two or three hours XD)
Yeah, exactly. It's really the admins of comms that'll really benefit - scheduled posts. (What also would be really cool is the polls that close at x hour - I'm pretty sure that it's been suggested, so...) You have so many interesting icons, omg. *flails*
You track...the whole community? The whole thing? But- but - your inbox! HOW DO YOU COPE.
*annoys pip*
(deleted and reposted because of HTML fail #2)
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also I totally thought you did it on purpose this time hahaha.
I, um, well. what with having been a stay-at-home zombie for the past essentially year. it has been easy. (but i potentially start having a job next week so idk what's going to happen.) anyway this comm is the least of my tracking worries. I don't track the Flame entire but I do end up tracking a bunch of posts, and all the posts on the mod forum, and most of the posts on my other lj comm (and we can be a chatty bunch sometimes omg) and and and some personal posts from various people and, yes, it's a little ridiculous. i
wandered away to put my sheets in the dryer and forgot what i was saying. and hey, stop distracting me, i'm trying to write up a srs chatter post for the flame!
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Job! Scary! *no other comment to add*
I had lunch. It was very tasty. I like the random i hanging in there, but it looks kind of lonely.
make a silly chatter for the flame! :D *tempts you with comment*
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(don't mind me and my tv references. i promise i don't expect people to know what i'm talking about)
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also I have no idea what you're referencing (and prolly wouldn't know the source if I googled - perhaps I should Google if I keep writing this comment - decisions, decisions) but here, have my _support icon. ;)
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AHAHAHA IDK how I missed this. That must've been a bit incongruous.
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But it's up! :D
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Vernacular, I think, can add something to the story. Currently I'm reading "Their Eyes Were Watching God" by Zora Neale Hurston for one of my classes. The dialogue is entirely in vernacular. It's much more realistic than, say, if the characters (all of whom are poor black southerners) were walking around saying, "Would you like to get a drink with me?" would ring very false. The dialogue in a story is another part of the setting; like a spaceship in a western, everyone will notice if it doesn't fit.
As pippin said, the use of vernacular should depend on the skill of the writer. If the vernacular dialogue comes across as stilted, then it's detracting and distracting. Hurston pulls it off quite well and it helps pull the reader into the story.
As to the last question, I'd imagine that watching someone mangle an accent while reading poetry is hilarious.